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Tuesday, December 19, 2006
Wishes for the Season
One does not have to be of any religion to understand love. My prayer is that each of us will take this season to express to those we love and hold dear, just how much we value them. While expressions of love should never be confined to any moment or season, let us take this season to ensure that we let those who walk through life with us as friends and family know just how much we consider ourselves blessed to be travelers with them.
For those who celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, or Kwanzaa -- may this season be one in which your festivals are joyful. For those who do not recognize a religious holiday, may your season with family be full of love and joy.
During this season, each of us should strive to let those who make a difference in our lives know we appreciate them. And, we should each strive to make a difference in someone else's life. And, if we can each spare a moment of time or a handful of coins, let each of us help to bring joy to those who might otherwise be without.
And last, may each of us remember those who serve our country. May we cast aside political labels and appreciate each person for their service to this nation. May we remember the soldier separated from friends and family who serves in distant lands. Those men and women who serve our Nation -- who protect our lands, and preserve our freedom. May we remember husbands/wives/children who will celebrate this season with a loved one far from home. Who each day cast an eye to the news hoping to catch a glimpse of a loved one serving, while hoping at the same time they don't see them among the casualties.
To each and all, may you have a blessed holiday, and may we each enjoy the company of family and friends.
Billie Goodson
December 20, 2006
Tuesday, July 18, 2006
Atheism and Honesty
From http://jeromekahn123.tripod.com/thinkersonreligion/id9.html
Late in life he [John Adams] wrote: "Twenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!"
Mr. Adams did most assuredly write that. However, he went on in the next sentence to add:
"But in this exclamation I would have been as fanatical as Bryant or Cleverly. Without religion this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company, I mean Hell."
-- See the original document at http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/vc006646.jpg
Another favorite is quoting from a letter from Nelly Custis-Lewis, the adopted daughter of Washington that lived 20 years with our first president. The site PositiveAtheism offers:
Funny, Nellie also says:Custis: Never Witnessed Devotions
"I never witnessed his private devotions. I never inquired about them."
-- Eleanor "Nellie" Parke Custis Lewis, Martha Washington's granddaughter from a previous marriage, quoted from Sparks' Washingon, also from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents, p. 22
"Is it necessary that any one should [ask], “Did General Washington avow himself to be a believer in Christianity?" As well may we question his patriotism, his heroic devotion to his country. His mottos were, "Deeds, not Words"; and, "For God and my Country."Same letter -- I wonder why that gets left out?
In short ... one is left to wonder who is dishonest. Sometimes you hear the phrase "the pot calling the kettle black" -- but, I am not sure Christianity plays the kettle or the pot in this.
Reflections
Invariably, any visitor to the capital city will have certain sights etched in their memories. Maybe it’s the National Archives which contains the Declaration of Independence witnessed by 56 men brave men who challenged the world’s strongest empire when they affixed their names to the treatise that would proclaim “that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life,
A Theory By Any Other Name
A Theory by any other name.................
It is with some amount of humor that I read a recent editorial appearing in the Florida Today entitled “Concerning the teaching of the theory of evolution”. The author, appropriately anonymous, has seemed to confuse fact with fiction quite deliriously. The term "theory' does not denote a fact, but instead, somewhat less than fact. When I took science, oh so many years ago, I was taught that theories were unscientifically unproven. If they were proven, they would no longer qualify as "theory." Maybe that has changed with "enlightenment" of today's education. I tend to doubt that.
But, enough, let us move to the second paragraph of the offered prose. The writer’s statement that "evolution as the only scientifically valid explanation for the diversity of life on Earth" is somewhat laughable. I am sure this person considers themselves enlightened, probably even educated. I was taught that education was the acquiring of knowledge. This person need not acquire any, they have instead allowed others to think and have accepted it without the possibility of debate.
Has anybody ever done the math to figure out how long it would take for all of the different species/phylum/etc to come about? Actually, there is a mathematical look at that question of evolution probability. To summarize, the probability can be expressed as 1060, if written out, would be "one" followed by sixty "zeros." In other words, the chance that a 200-component organism could be formed by mutation and natural selection is less than one chance out of a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion! Oh, speaking of a 200 part organism, even a one-celled plant or animal may have millions of molecular "parts." [1]
Then again we are talking about time. Oh, thats right, the theory of evolution is not bound by time. If things don't fit, just change the time scale. For years, carbon-14 dating was held as a standard. However, anyone with a computer can do a search on carbon-14 dating and find as many people explaining the inaccuracies of the method as there are items for sale at EBay.
The author went on to point out a ruling by the Supreme Court that occurred in 1987 that forbid the teaching of creation. It is interesting to note, there is no ruling that specifically forbids the teaching of creationism. One needs to read the Supreme Court decision to grasp what was being contemplated by the Court. Justice Brenna, in writing the majority opinion stated; “In a similar way, teaching a variety of scientific theories about the origins of humankind to schoolchildren might be validly done with the clear secular intent of enhancing the effectiveness of science instruction. But because the primary purpose of the Creationism Act is to endorse a particular religious doctrine, the Act furthers religion in violation of the Establishment Clause.”
What the court decided in this case was not that creationism could not be taught, but that it could not be required to be taught to complement the theory of evolution. This prevents the Christian principle of creationism from being forced upon a school system simply because the theory of evolution is being taught. To make it simple, its like saying you have to offer Coke if you offer Pepsi, and the court ruled that you could in fact only offer one, the other could not be required. Justice Brennan in writing for the majority, did not include any language that could be construed as prohibiting the teaching of creationism.
That brings us to another fine point that lacks support. The Separation of Church and State, contrary to some opinions is not contained within the Constitution. This is no more within the Constitution than the three wise men were at the manger. Don’t confuse popular notions with fact. The concept of Separation of Church and State is factually traced to a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association of Connecticut in 1802. Our founders were careful to establish that the government should not force upon the people a religion, and now some would have the government force there to be no religion. While some may not see the difference, it is very clear to the educated what that distinction implies.
I find it humorous that someone that would claim to be educated would accept the opinion of some in science without question. But, I assume that is how some felt when they looked upon the scientific statements that stated the world was flat, or that the sun revolved around the earth, or any number of popular theories that have been dis-proven with time. As a Christian, I have no problem with the schools teaching the theory of evolution. It is only when the teaching neglects to notice the word “theory” that I have problems. If you choose to believe in evolution, then I have no objection. If I choose to believe in Creationism, why should you have a problem with that? Does my belief threaten yours? If my belief is correct, that will be revealed in time, if yours is correct, I guess we will never know. My belief has a better eternity payoff.
Did Christianity Steal from Mithra
What follows is my response to the article.
"It is said that Mithra or [the] Sun took birth in the Cave on December 25th. It is also the belief of the Christian world that Mithra or the Sun-God was born of [a] Virgin. He travelled far and wide. He has twelve satellites, which are taken as the Sun's disciples.... Swami Prajnanananda"
Is the assertation that the swami above is some mithraic theologian? It is doubtful. The first sentence gives it away...."It is said" -- by whom? When? Where? This discourse would not past muster in any fifth grade class. Sorry, this convinces me of nothing -- truth be known, I am glad paper was not wasted in its production. There appears to be a problem in this forum. Some people are want to make allegations and accusations, then seem to struggle to produce any credible proof as to what they say. I don't know is it just me that tends to not believe everything people say that they cannot support?
Just for giggles, I refute the previous argument referenced by Dan Foster with my own link -- http://www.carm.org/evidence/mithra.htm I guess this is how the freethinkers argue, post to other people's research. I guess it does make it simpler. However, I think it promotes a laziness that shows how easily a mind can be convinced of anything. This technique would be the sand, not the solid Rock. Jesus said to not build on the sand....there was a reason.
I have read the link posted and I will share with you some of the contents: ===================
Claim: Jesus and Mithra were both born of a virgin
Article Statement: "Like the vast majority of the ancient gods, Mithra was never a "real person." In actuality he was originally represented by non-human forms, following the Persian abhorrence of "idols," as related by Herodotus, until being personified or anthropomorphized after his migration to Asia Minor."
Analysis: Hmm, article says never a real person...but, the claim is born of a virgin. Sorry, someone with less intelligence will need to explain how that can happen. In my experience, one would have to be a real person to have been born...help me out here.
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Claim: Both were born on December 25
Analysis: Well, he wasn't a real person, so again, when was he born? Or not born...sorry, getting lost again in how Mithra, who was not a "real person" was born...maybe it was an easter egg treasure.
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Claim: The sacrifice of Christ was taken from Mithra Article text: "Mithra's slaying of the Bull was an act that became as central to Mithraism as was the crucifixion to Christianity. The bull represented rebirth, fertility and fecundity, with his blood corresponding to the wine of the mysteries. The sacrifice of the bull was reenacted in the Mithraic baptism, a mystery rite in which the initiates were splattered with the blood. The initiate was then said to have been "born again."
and...
"The Mithra-Bull motif, in which the god seeks out, grabs the bull by the horns and then mounts it, resembles the Zen Buddhist story regarding the sage in search of his "bull," which represents himself. Indeed, in slaying the Heavenly Bull, Mithra is essentially sacrificing himself, in order to save the world: The bull appears to signify the earth or mankind, and the implication is that Mithra, like Christ, overcame the world; but in the early Persian writings Mithra himself is the bull, the god thus sacrificing himself, which is a close approximation to the Christian idea. That Mithra is himself the bull is further evident from Robert Graves's assertion that the "Persian Mithras was also eaten in bull form.""
Analysis: So Mithra killed the Bull as a sacrfice...but, Mithra was the bull, so he sacrificed himself? Ok....glad we got that clarified....
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Claim: Iconography of Christianity and adapation of Mithraic Icons From the Article: "Cumont also argued that the images of "heaven, earth, ocean, sun, moon, planets, the zodiacal signs, the winds, the seasons, and the like, found on Christian sarcophagi and in mosaics and miniatures areadaptations of Mithraic models.""
Analysis: Oh, without Mithras, or before Mithras, there was no sun, heaven, earth, moon, planets...etc? Sorry, these are common elements that have existed...well, since creation. To claim these as a "creation" of Mithras is really a stretch....
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Claim: Mithras predates Christianity
From the Article: "Mithra as the Mediator is unquestionably a concept that predated Christianity by centuries, and the deliberate reference to Christ as the Mediator at Hebrews 9:15 is an evident move to usurp Mithra's position."
Analysis: This is the most obvious collapse of the whole story to me. Jesus is the Messiah, not simply because he claimed it to be so...in fulfilling the personage of the Messiah, Jesus was fulfilling prophecies that date back centuries. Jesus, or the Messiah to be more specific, is not a 1st Century out of the dark creation. He is a fulfillment of the old testament scriptures that date back centuries. Sorry, only someone clueless to Christianity could make the assumption the author makes in her piece. Only an acolyte of hers would accept this as valid.
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It is clear from a cursury examination of the argument presented that it is at best a fairy-tale, and at worst a plea to the masses of the ignorant for more money.
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Along another vein, the author states in her work one source, a Sir Weigall. In her text she identifies him as: "Christian apologist Sir Weigall". Who is this Christian Apologist. There is an Egyptologist that was also a Sir Weigall, but, there is no assertation in the portions of his biography that I could find that would identify him as a christian or an apologist. This seems clearly an attempt to present a person under false pretenses to add credibility to the claims being made. Sorry, as they would say on Mythbusters == B U S T E D
Continued Analysis of Foster's Evidence Dan Foster in response to my request for a scholarly source for the claim that Christianity stole from Mithraic legend was limited to a single posting from Acharya S on her website http://www.truthbeknown.com/ , linked to the specific page of mithra.htm. An interesting side note to the scholarly credentials of the author. If one visits the into page to her site, http://www.truthbeknown.com,/ you are presented testimonials from what would have to be described as individuals she places in high esteem. Remember, this is her site, not the site of some other person, so she chose the content. One would have to suppose, although I guess it could be argued -- pointlessly, that these are the best testimonials that could be gathered. Three names were listed as the source of the testimonials. I thought it might be interesting to determine the bona fides that these people were bringing with their testimonial. My findings were interesting:
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"Acharya S is the ranking religious philosopher of our era." ~ John Kaminski
High Praise indeed. Wow, what a testament. Who is this John Kaminski that has heaped this high honor on the author? Well, I googled him (scientific research as determined by our departed friend Andrew). The result was interesting. Seems Mr. Kaminski is an accomplished writer.
Let us look at the brief listing of titles authored by our laureate:
"THE DAY AMERICA DIED" -- from this insightful article, we can learn -- Arab terrorists didn’t hijack the planes. -- The Twin Towers didn’t collapse, they exploded. -- Fake cellphone calls and bogus box cutters.
"The Perfect Enemy" -- reveals that the al-Qaeda terror network is a fictional creation of the bloodthirsty maniacs who have seized control of the United States of America and now threaten the health and well-being of everyone in the world.
"The Universe Is A Laughing Woman" --Our planet has become a toxic landfill because men's rituals obscure reality.
Wow, this guy should be required reading in all of our schools.....
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Then there is the second testimonal
"Acharya S deserves to be recognized as a leading researcher and an expert in the field of comparative mythology, on a par with James Frazer or Robert Graves--indeed, superior to those forerunners in the frankness of her conclusions and the volume of her evidence." ~~ Barbara Walker
Ms. Walker presents to us some of her most scholarly works -- "Knitting from the Top", or "Quest for Quimper" (Quimper is aparently a style of pottery). To be fair, she has also published "Feminist Fairy Tales" and has a deck of Tarot cards that can be ordered through Amazon.
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The third source was a little more problematic. The testimonial offered:
"Amidst global chaos, Acharya S is the voice of reason." ~~ Joan D'Arc
Catchy name...but, no, not that Joan. So who is this D'Arc? Googled it, no clear source at quick read. But, I did notice something when researching John Kaminski...who should have a testimonial on his site but Ms. D'Arc. Here is how she was quoted:
"In a voice almost too bold to contemplate, John Kaminski turns our attention toward the unspeakable: religious bigotry, vile stupidity in high places, and a bottomless pit of hatred in the world. Reading his essays will spin your head; you will be turned on a dime to his way of thinking." — Joan d'Arc, Paranoia magazine
Paranoia Magazine can be found at http://www.paranoiamagazine.com./ I will let the reader draw their own conclusions.
PS: If his work causes her to "turn on a dime" then there will surely be 9 cents change.
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So, you as the reader decide --- I asked for scholarly work, this is the evidence we have before us. No other view has been expressed. You decide.